Why I believe in a Global Flood

56 Responses to “Why I believe in a Global Flood”

1. Kristan Simm on June 22nd, 2010 9:02 am

   I love God’s evidence and your beautiful pictures!

2. Kathleen on June 22nd, 2010 9:06 am

   I so appreciate your studious & reasonable perspectives (and photos)!

3. Debra on June 22nd, 2010 9:33 am

   God impressed upon me the He will come like a Tsunami (but in a good way). “Open the floodgates of Heaven, Lord!”

4. RandyKCMO on June 22nd, 2010 9:42 am

   Hey Del, Thanks for the article as well as your your leading us through the entire Truth Project video series. They have been a blessing to me and others.

   Regards,

   Randy

5. Steve on June 22nd, 2010 10:21 am

   I think heavy tsunamis, sloshing from comparatively rapid run-away tectonics and heavy rains (all induced by asteroid impacts during the Late Heavy Bombardment, which I obviously redate) are more likely than mysteriously undetectable underground caverns.

6. Nathan on June 22nd, 2010 10:43 am

   This is a great post. I’m always encouraged to see the evidence laid out for the flood, and it always makes so much sense to me. Thanks for fighting the good fight.

7. Charity on June 22nd, 2010 11:03 am

   Thank you, Dr. Tackett!! I have always believed in the flood because The Bible says that it is so, but I don’t get to really travel the way you do, so I enjoyed reading your reasons for your beliefs and knowing that you have seen the signs with your own eyes and not just pictures from other people. Also thank you for sharing your pictures in this and the previous blogs. Beautiful landscapes and I hope someday that I’m able to go and see them for myself.

8. Ian on June 22nd, 2010 12:25 pm

   My wife and I just finished our third dance through the Truth Project and we are preparing to take a road trip. We have decided to go to southern Utah and have a “look-see” for ourselves. It sure looks spectacular from here.

9. Debra on June 22nd, 2010 1:37 pm

   Great reasoning. Thanks for the article and the help it provides for others as we desire to also share the Truth.

10. Chris on June 22nd, 2010 3:20 pm

    Del,
    As always, a great article and marvelous pictures. I grew up out west but now live back east and they make me miss my western homeland.

    I hadn’t thought about the issue of a local flood and God’s covenant not to bring a flood back on the earth like the flood that Noah had just survived. That’s a great argument,especially to share with my evangelical friends who think there wasn’t a global flood but only a local one.

    Also, I hadn’t even thought about the character of the various folded sedimentary layers, but you’re right, the folds are smooth and not jagged as they would be under a more uniformitarian model.

    I really liked you’re second to last picture, the one with the smooth even mesas surrounded by deep carved out canyons. If that isn’t caused by a sudden drop in water level, I just don’t know what is.

11. Eric Keim on June 22nd, 2010 5:47 pm

    Del:

    Sorry to hear your vacation to the South West is over, but is was sure fun to see your pictures and share your thoughts.

    I have to agree that the evidence of at least one great flood is pretty much overwhelming to anyone who cares to look at the geology of the world around us. The dinosaurs would have reigned in a World of lush vegetation, warm climate and higher levels of Oxygen from all those plants. But all of this was somehow completely destroyed and covered up by large amounts of sediment, compressed under great pressure and cooked into the hydrocarbon rich petroleum, coal and natural gas that we draw from the earth today. It seems to be pretty clear that there must have been a cataclysmic deluge and ensuing flood of epoch proportions to change that World into the World we know today.

    The question is: Was it ~ 15,000 years ago, ~150,000 years ago or millions of years ago as current science purports. Whenever it was, it not only killed the dinosaurs, but it paved the way for great ice age, the build up large amounts of fresh water Glaciers in the Northern hemisphere, the formation of the North American Continent and the great lakes we are familiar with today. All of this made it possible for the ascension of man as the dominant life form on the Earth.

    Today are we seeing the effects of glacial withdrawal in some regions due to the warming of the earth. This warming however, appears to be at the same rate as the rest of the planets in the solar system which could only be affected as a group, by the sun and its sun spot activity of the lack there of. Are we so naive as to believe that it is we who can change the climate by our actions, or will we finally accept the truth that it is God, who is in control. About the only thing I believe we can do to damage the World that is of major long term significance, would be to unleash a thermonuclear war upon ourselves. Sadly, that seems to be exactly what Iran intends to do to Israel, and what Jesus will intervene to stop.

    Back to the flood and what came after it, didn’t Noah have three sons? A gentlemen and I were discussing this point the other day, and he proposed that the three sons of Noah each became the progenitors of a separate race of people, the Asiatics, the Africans and The Caucasians. I thought about that for a while, and then I saw in some writings that it has been determined by modern genetic science, that there are only three major variations of DNA represented in the human population of the world today. Just a coincidence?

    I also read recently that some clay tablets were found in Iraq (circa 1930), above a 10 foot layer of clay that was determined by excavations of the ancient city of Ur, to separate the stone age from the bronze age. On those clay tablets were found writings of a man who claimed to have spoken to a person who survived a great flood by having lived inside of a large boat with a number of animals for a relatively long period of time. These writings spoke of dark skys, rain, tsunamis, floods and objects falling from the sky. If these things are true, which I believe they are, why is this evidence of the accuracy of the bible not front page news, and taught to our Children in our Christian schools.

    Thanks again for all your doing.

    Sincerely,
    Eric Keim

12. Janet on June 22nd, 2010 9:22 pm

    I believe in a global flood, and I also recognize the science that demonstrates an old universe. Loved the pics too!

13. Nancy on June 23rd, 2010 12:27 pm

    Dell – Thank you for the very informative article on the flood. I believe that it happened and that God won’t flood the entire earth again. But, unfortunately, those who don’t believe will never be convinced unless God leads them to it.
    Also, thank you for the wonderful Truth Project. We just finished it and I’m anxiously awaiting your next series!

14. MarthaBarley on June 23rd, 2010 3:22 pm

    I was recently given the book, The G. O. D. Experiments How Science is Discovering God in Everything Including US by Gary E. Schwarz and William L. Simon. I am to chapter five and am finding it fascinating. It doesn’t deal with the flood, but I was curious if anyone else had read it.

    I also have enjoyed Legends of the Flood by Eric Lyons and Kyle Butt that shows that hundreds of cultures around the world have flood stories which only makes sense if there was a worldwide flood that impacted the world.

15. Sam on June 24th, 2010 5:47 pm

    Dear Dr. Tackett:

    Thank you for your post, I was one of the ones that raised questions regarding the notion of a global flood, I have so much enjoyed your posts and your dedication to the truth. I have especially enjoyed the Truth Project series and have hosted already one session and plan to host another one after we return from our vacation. (We’re going to Yellowstone, another of God’s wonderful master pieces).

    If I may be so bold I would like to post “Why I believe in a LOCAL flood and a Global Judgment.”

    I was raised believing that the flood was global but after much reading and studying, and I have read both points of view I have come to the conclusion that the flood had to be local in its physical extent, but global in its judgment.
    No scientists deny the reality of floods , they know that many of the geological formations we see today where caused by floods, but they assert that it was also wind erosion, water erosion and time and meteorites and earthquakes and plate tectonics and so on, but here I would like to present primarily scriptural reasons as to why I no longer believe in a ‘global flood’. I am neither a Bible Scholar nor a scientists but I do like to read.

    Most of the information I present here was extracted from the following two sites http://www.reasons.org/siteSearch/node/flood and http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/localflood.html

    Here are some of the reasons.
    1) The English translation of the words ‘whole earth’ or ‘all of the earth’ comes from the Hebrew ‘kol erets’. ‘kol’ meaning ‘all’ and ‘erets’ meaning ‘earth’, ‘land’, ‘country’ or ‘ground’. See Genesis 2:11 & 13 and many others.
    In the O.T. the words ‘kol erets’ are nearly always used to describe a local area of land and not the entire planet.

    2) The words ‘kol erets’ can and has been in many instances of the O.T. used to mean ‘people’. See Gen 18:25, Jos. 23:14, 1 Sam 14:25, 2 Sam 15:23, 1 Kings 2:2 and many more.

    3) The Hebrew word ‘har’ translated ‘mountains’ occurs 649 times in the O.T. in 212 instances it is translated ‘hill’ or ‘hills’ or ‘hill country’. In Genesis in 10 out of 19 times it is translated ‘hill’. So in Genesis 7:20 where it says that “all the high mountains everywhere” could literally be translated “all the high hills everywhere”

    4) The phrase “under the heavens” must be taken in context from Noah’s perspective. In the same way that Paul in Rom 1:8 says that the faith of the Christians in Rome was being reported “all over the world”, Did Paul mean that the Eskimos and American Indians had heard about it?

    5) Genesis 6-9 tells us of God’s judgment on man’s sinfulness, scriptural integrity hinges not on an globe covered by water but on God’s judgment upon ALL humanity. If humans had not yet spread beyond the Mesopotamia, What need would God have to destroy the entire globe?

    6) Anthropological evidence points to the Mesopotamian area as the ‘cradle of civilization’. Today more than 20 million people live in that area. God had to repeat the command ‘to multiply and fill the earth’ 4 times. (Gen 1:26, 28, 9:1 & 9:7) and they still disobeyed so God had to intervene at the Tower of Babel.

    7) Throughout the O.T God’s judgment has always been limited to the impact and extent of human wickedness, it normally falls upon the sinners themselves, sometimes on their children, their live stock and material possessions and only in extreme cases their agricultural lands.

    All current ‘literal’ interpretations of Gen 6-9 can also be interpreted ‘literally’ as a local flood and a universal judgment on humanity if seen from the point of view of Noah who had no real global perspective.

    9) Lack of sufficient water to cover the entire globe.

    10) Not enough space in the Ark to hold all the existing land dwelling animals, and in addition you would have to include all the millions of species that have now gone extinct, and don’t forget you must also include living and extinct birds.

    11) The fact that cultures around the world have flood stories is NOT evidence that the waters cover the entire planet, but it is evidence of a flood that killed all of humanity, (except for Noah and family). After the Tower of Babel when people began to finally spread out they would have taken with them the story of the great flood. Interestingly enough the further this stories are from the Mesopotamian area the more ‘fantastic’ the stories get.

    12) Psalm 104:9 specifically eliminates the possibility of a global flood. Verses 5 – 9 in describing the newly formed earth, paralleling Genesis 1, specifically states that when God formed the earth and separated the waters from the land (formation of the continents). He declared that they will not return to cover the earth.

    13) The fact that we still have local floods, does not mean that God has broken His promise. Since a careful reading of Genesis 8:21 – 9:17 shows that God promised not to destroy all flesh. The point of the promise was that He would not destroy all of humanity by water as He had done with this flood. Note that even Peter in 2 Peter 3:5-6 qualifies is it with the “world at that time”

    For all of the above stated reasons and several others, I have come to the conclusion that it had to be local but with a global impact on humanity.

    From Genesis 3 until the flood everything takes place within the Mesopotamian area, there is absolutely no indication from scripture nor from anthropology that humans had yet reached the other side of the world or Europe for that matter, and I don’t believe God would have destroyed animals and other parts of the world who had never even seen humans.
    If God’s intent was to ‘destroy the earth’ then He failed, because the flood clearly did not destroy it, it may have re-shaped it but it did not destroy it. The Genesis account clearly states that God’s purpose was to destroy all sinful human, He could accomplish that by sending, very quickly, a massive flood into the Mesopotamian valley so fast and so large that from Noah’s perspective it would have seemed as if the whole world under the heavens had been destroyed.

    Thanks again for your post and for the wonderful pictures.

    In His love, Sam

16. Ted on June 28th, 2010 6:07 pm

    I also have come to believe in a universal flood because of the evidence and because of how my confidence and faith continues to be built up and confirmed through what is in the Bible — it lines up with reality. I believe that the pre-flood earth was much richer in plant life and conducive to bigger animals like dinosaurs, but a post-flood environment could not support them and they died off shortly after.

    I always marvel at how the same themes come from different places at the same time. John MacArthur’s GTY site has something related to the universal flood right now that everyone should take a few minutes to check out. Go here: http://www.gty.org/Blog/B100624

    Ted

17. Sandy on July 6th, 2010 2:19 pm

    I have a very simple mind I guess. I believe in a global flood. Why? Because God said it was. That’s enough for me. I love the evidence though for those who simply can’t and won’t believe.

18. Gail on July 9th, 2010 10:04 am

    Beautiful pictures! There are not enough words to describe the awesome power and majesty that God puts on display for us to enjoy. I too, believe in a worldwide flood and am into studying creation and evidence of catastrophism. Evolution is definitely a religion, or, psuedo science – a tragedy that it is being forced upon students in our schools – at our expense. Just finished watching “The Truth Project”, and I have to tell you that I have never heard such profound and passionate teaching on the nature and character of God. Truly powerful. One question: What became of Flash? Was deeply moved by his story and wept with him.

19. Gail on July 15th, 2010 12:42 pm

    Awesome pictures, but nothing we can do can even begin to compare to what beauty God shows us every day of our lives. Sitting outside and watching the birds comt to our feeder and hearing the song of the song sparrow… feeling the breeze on your face and watching a baby deer with it’s mom eating grass in the meadow… our God is indeed awesome and worthy of our praise…

20. Scotty Ray on July 17th, 2010 9:49 pm

    I don’t understand

21. Dash on July 20th, 2010 10:15 am

    I’m curious if you believe in evolution at all, since belief in evolution in even the simplest form would make the Noah story easier to swallow.

    The reason I say that is because it is a literal impossibility to fit a breeding pair from every species into a ship the size of the Ark. Even if one eliminates all the insects, there are simply too many kinds of animals to fit into a ship that was less than half the size of the average cruise ship or the HMS Titanic.

    However, if one were to say that Noah took a pair of proto-bears on board and from those proto-bears evolved the black, brown, grizzly, polar, koala, etc. versions, then it might just be possible. So instead of taking on zebras, horses, donkeys, shetland ponies, and all that, or lions, tigers, pumas, jaguars, house cats, and so on, Noah took proto-horses and ur-cats, it might just be on the edge of doable. probably not, but it would certainly be easier to believe.

    This is my problem with the literal interpretation of the Bible: there are simply too many logical problems with it. The story of the Flood is a perfect example, because there simply isn’t enough space on the Ark nor enough time to load it.

    Of course, if you completely discount logic and say that the Ark had the equivalent of a magic closet that could keep multiple types of animals in the exact same space, then there’s no arguing with that. If there are no rules, then it can’t break any. Open the magic closet door and you see lions. Close it and open it again and you see ostriches. Close, open, zebras. Close, open, possums, Close, open, elephants. Close, open, giraffes. Close, open, cows. Ad infinitum.

    Of course, if that were the case, the Ark needn’t be 450 feet long, but just a rowboat with a magic closet.

    This is not intended as a slam towards anyone’s beliefs. Whatever gets you through the night is okay by me. But I simply can’t square the attempt at using logic on something that is so obviously inherently illogical. God gave us brains and we are beholden to Him to use them correctly, as the Parable of the Talents so clearly underscores.

22. b allen on August 5th, 2010 9:39 pm

    Although I don’t agree 100% on their analysis, I appreciate the candor, insight, and thoughtfulness Sam and Dash have provided.

    From reading through many of the comments it appears there are misconceptions and a lack of understanding about geology, paleontology, cosmology, and biblical interpretation even from the author of the article.

    A number of posters seem to think that Christians that believe in an old universe, evolution, or biblical allegory are either ignorant, naive, or heretical.

    This is not the case. Many who have taken the time and effort have been able to face facts of natural scientific evidence and ancient near eastern studies to evaluate the reality of the planet and the literary broadness of biblical interpretation.

    To demand only one strict interpretation as referenced above without true evidence or even the acknowledgment of alternate biblical interpretations can solidify dogmatic hubris and cause division of those who should treat each other as they would want to be treated.

    There are various discrepancies that can be seen taking a literal interpretation as we continue to learn new understanding and exegesis in the Bible because of archeology, cultural studies, language studies, etc. We consistently see symbolism and allegory used in familiar reference to bring about an idea or concept.

    There is no reason why a believer need demand only one interpretation. If it were the case there would be only one “True Christianity”. Instead we have seen the evolution and growth of several denominations. We see the truth searching of great God-fearing thinkers through the centuries who had various conflicting views from each other and were also flawed individuals (Aquinas, Augustine, Luther, Calvin, C.S. Lewis, etc) No man is perfect and no man can have a perfect understanding whether they believe in God or not.

    The illusion that everyone must believe the same exact thing serves to divide rather than to unify.

    I appreciate the fortitude of the author although some of the “facts” of geology are not at all represented accurately.

23. Connie on August 9th, 2010 11:34 pm

    I believe in My Holy Abba, His son Jesus and His Holy Spirit because:
    (1) of the seed of faith He planted in my heart before I was born,
    (2) of the changes and lessons He taught me over a period of 26 years. It took that long because I was a hard-hearted, vain and critical “Christian”. He taught me to forgive those who I held grudges against and in return He forgave me, my wrongs to others.
    (3) He allowed me to feel the love He holds for every creature on this earth He formed.
    (4) the two commandments ALL His followers must obey, (a)Worship God the Creator ONLY and(b)love and care about everyone you come in contact with everyday as you would want them to love and care about you if you were in their shoes and they in yours.

    I look for no proof anymore, I enjoy the beauty of His earth, the singing of the birds, the smile I can bring to another with a kind deed or word and I have just realized how many times I have thanked, praised and given glory to God, but in talking with Him I have never said the simple words “i love you”. Now, I tell Him everyday!
    The wonders of the world are amazing and very interesting.
    To everyone who reads this message I give you a challenge I read about a few weeks ago, in all the situations you face each day before taking action of any kind, ask yourself “what would Jesus do?”.
    When everybody starts loving and caring about others, God’s World will be changed forever!!!!!!
    [Connie, thanks for your testimony. I have always thought that the better question is "What would Jesus have Me do?" since I can't do all the things that Jesus did or could do, but I am very interested in what He is calling me to. DT]

24. Greg Bair on August 23rd, 2010 9:13 pm

    Thanks for the focus on the flood Del, I travel throughout the US for work and I see evidence of extremely large volumes of water EVERYWHERE!! It is profound in the Southwest US and I’m normally glued to my airplane window as we fly over New Mexico and Arizona on my way home to Southern California. On one of those recent flights it occurred to me that we are looking at a scar. We really have no idea what the original creation looked like, everything we see is the result of a catastrophic judgement that completely deformed what was originally created. If the scar can contain such beauty imagine what the real thing must look like.

    [That's an awesome thought, isn't it? But God also takes our mistakes and evil and turns it into something good. Even the world that was destroyed by water becomes a spectacle of beauty. Thanks for reading the blog, Greg. dt]

25. Dave on August 31st, 2010 4:10 pm

    I appreciate your attitude toward those who disagree. It is important for us to have reasonable discussions and honestly look at the arguments/data. I am learning to trust God to do the convincing/convicting.

    [Thanks, Dave. We fail to reflect our Father's character when we are obstinate, irritating, arrogant, impatient, etc. etc. rather than being kind, gracious and attractively winsome. Expressing the truth can be done in two different ways: one will ensure you have an enemy; the other will, as best as it depends upon you, make a friend, even if they end up not agreeing with you. dt]

26. Kenn on August 31st, 2010 5:07 pm

    Eric Keim: “It seems to be pretty clear that there must have been a cataclysmic deluge and ensuing flood of epoch proportions to change that World into the World we know today. The question is: Was it ~ 15,000 years ago, ~150,000 years ago or millions of years ago as current science purports.”

    If you believe in the Flood of the Bible, then you believe the occurrence in full. This includes the people mentioned. So, if you believe that God used Noah to construct the Ark, then all you have to do is date back to Noah using the many Bible genealogies. That puts the Flood between 4,000 and 6,000 years ago.

    Dash: Creation Scientists believe in evolution. They just don’t believe in changes over millions of years resulting in a change of species. Creation Scientists believe in small changes and adaptations within ‘kind’. This means that what you said about the ‘ptoto-horse’ and so forth is actually an accurate picture of what the ark would’ve looked like.

    B Allen: I would submit to you that there is a difference in individual interpretation and literal interpretation. Though it would be silly to say that the Bible must be interpreted literally in it’s entirety, I would submit that it is possible to have an accurate or an inaccurate interpretation. I would therefore submit that there IS one true Christianity. The existence of denominations is not proof that there is more than one truth, as that is not possible. The creations and factions of man are not a basis for Biblical truth. Whether we get it right or not, God knows what is true, Jesus told us what is true, and the Holy Spirit illuminates truth to us. One Truth. We may screw it up, but that doesn’t mean that there is more than one legitimate truth. If you disagree, you are therein agreeing that it is not possible to believe in relative truth.

    [Kenn, thanks for obviously reading through not only the blog, but all of the comments! I have long believed that the denominations are actually a great testimony to the reality of God's internal diversity. We are a diverse body of believers. But the key is the unity of that diversity. Unity does not mean that the pieces and parts now must all be the same. No. Otherwise you don't have unity, you monolithicness (is that a word?). We obviously have the diversity. We need to work on the unity. dt]

27. John on August 31st, 2010 5:09 pm

    Del – I totally agree with your position; as pointed out, the Bible is inerrant and consistent on its treatment of the flood. We can argue about “old versus young” universe, but who can argue with God’s Word?

    [I agree and that is why I have attempted to deal with the flood outside of the age issue. But, obviously, people want to talk about it. I think the global flood it is a very interesting topic to deal with when we focus just on that issue and the evidence from both general and special revelation sans the age issue. Thanks! dt]

28. Jeff on August 31st, 2010 5:16 pm

    Am I the only one who has heard of the Answers In Genesis ministry (http://www.answersingenesis.org/)? What a great supplement/complement to this topic (especially for the post of Dash on 7/20/10 among others). I am looking forward to a long anticipated visit to the Creation Museum (http://creationmuseum.org/) in October, if for no other reason than to be refreshed by a Biblical view of the origins of mankind as opposed to the world view we are bombarded by from every angle and influenced by non-Scriptural resources. I concur with the post of Sandy on 7/6/10….”I have a very simple mind I guess. I believe in a global flood. Why? Because God said it was. That’s enough for me. I love the evidence though for those who simply can’t and won’t believe.” Does it matter what one believes regarding this long debated topic? If what Scripture says about this topic is suspect or moot, then all the rest is as well. (As the serpent said to Eve: “Did God really say…? Gen 3:1)

    [Romans 1 says that the evidence regarding the nature of God has been clearly seen by all men because He has made it plain to them through His creation. That is a very powerful truth. That is why I love to examine it myself. Thanks for writing in. dt]

29. Marie on August 31st, 2010 5:44 pm

    God is so good!
    Thanks for The Truth Project.
    Thanks for this blog.
    Thinking about places to get information but not sure if you will show them. Here are two addresses:

    http://www.icr.org
    http://www.creation.com

    I believe the Bible is God’s Word, is true and trustworthy ….. even simple people can read it and understand ….. no need to add man’s ideas to it (nor millions of years!). If there was death before the fall (creation of man) then God was lying when he pronounced that everything was very good. I am so thankful that He is trustworthy and I can believe His Word. Thank you Del for telling it like it is.

    [Thanks for following the blog, Marie. I do believe that God's truth isn't complex. You don't need a doctorate to understand it and no man is without the ability to see the "plain" truth about God as it is etched into his Work. (Rom 1) dt]

30. Lillian on August 31st, 2010 5:52 pm

    If you are interested in further pursuit of scientific materials supporting the ‘Noah’s Flood’, which, in actuallity, was God’s Flood, I recommend Creation Science Evangelism’s DVD set. I found them on http://www.drdino.com and have gleened a lot of logical understanding and ‘Truth’ from them. Loved the pictures. Makes me want to re-discover Utah once again! God Bless You and God Bless the “Truth Project”.

    [Lillian, glad you enjoyed the pics. Of course, they are nothing compared to the real thing. Plan your trip soon! dt]

31. Joe on August 31st, 2010 5:55 pm

    Good points, Del. I Googled “Grand Canyon from space” thinking that as we get farther above the canyon the more it would look like the little rivers that would wash out in my gravel driveway during major rain storms. Just as I suspected:
    http://fireflyforest.net/firefly/2005/11/12/aerial-view-of-the-grand-canyon/

    [I have looked at my gravel driveway many times after a big thunderstorm, and seen the same things, including the way that the plant material is bunched. It does remind me of what we see from higher altitudes. Thanks! dt]

32. Roger D Paterson on August 31st, 2010 6:49 pm

    I’m happy for the faith of fellow-believers and I would never do anything to question (judge) their belief. But, sometimes I think too much energy and discussion is wasted on “proving” the “young earth” model.
    However God did it, never a question. God is God. Puny man is not able to convince me one way or another about the “how”. So, I look at the stars and nature and know God is, and there is no one on earth to “prove” the “how” of things.
    Faith is the substance of the things we can’t see. What we do see is God’s eternal power and divine nature. That’s enough for me!

    [I think the reason that I love the investigations, however, that look deeper and deeper into the creation around us, is that it reveals more amazing evidence of God's exquisite work. Thanks for the comment, Roger. dt]

33. Troy on August 31st, 2010 8:29 pm

    If it wasn’t a literal global flood then we shouldn’t find evidence of layered fossils and layered sediment outside the “known world” at the time of Noah…..but…..we do see the evidence everywhere on the earth. Let’s also not forget that God is the author of every word in the bible and he has a proper “global perspective” even though Noah might not have. Lastly, Noah didn’t need full grown adults of each species. He just needed one pink one and one blue one as weaned babies to get on the ark which would have held them all.

    Del, your doing a great job. Keep up the good work. I’m moving on to my 6th Truth Project group soon. Can’t wait for the followup material you are developing.

    [Troy, thank you for laboring together in the Truth Project. Remember to pray for your guest and to give them an opportunity to discuss. "Pink and blue"? Love it! dt]

34. Dan on August 31st, 2010 10:45 pm

    I’m a bit late to the discussion as I’ve never been to The Truth Project before. Great place.

    I’m rather in agreement with B Allen back on Aug. 5th. My faith in Jesus Christ and Him crucified could not be shaken if someone told me tomorrow that there had never been a flood anywhere. Ever.

    There is not much question that the book of Job predates Genesis. Nor is there much doubt that MOST of Genesis predates Moses. So my conclusion is that the Holy Spirit chose to reveal only what he revealed to Moses about the flood. Same goes for all of those events that Moses relates regarding the time before he was Elected by God to lead Isreal. We have, through Moses and perhaps 39 other authors the breathed word of God.

    Calvin (amongst others) warns against exercising our minds and hearts about things that are not revealed by God in his word. I can’t quote book, chapter and paragraph but it’s in “Institutes of the Christian Religion”. Most likely in Book one around the 16th or 17th chapter. I’m told he repeated the warning in other writings.

    Though it’s fun to speculate and perhaps show off a bit at times the point is; as many have testified, the Bible says it happened. The details are far less important than that God defended His holiness with a giant outburst of wrath during the flood. That he chose Noah’s family to continue the species is to His credit. Not our own.

    I believe the earth is much older than the combined ages of the profits. Having said that, I don’t doubt for even a moment that Abraham, Sarah, Hagar, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Esau, and all the rest were real people in real time in real contact with our creator. All the evidence is in the bible and in my heart. I know it’s true. The fact of it’s truth was stamped on my heart before the foundations of the earth, by our Lord and God, in and from whom all things are possible. So either way beloved, our Lord will return and we will accompany him to our Fathers house; which has many mansions.
    Dan

    [Thanks, Dan. I do think that details are important, though. God is detailed in His Word about so many things and the more details we learn about His creation, the more of His glory is revealed through what He has made. Psalm 19 actually tells us to learn from the creation. I think it is fascinating to do so. Soli Deo Gloria! dt]

35. Brian on September 1st, 2010 3:39 am

    Hey Del,

    Loved the blog of your trip, the pictures were beautiful.

    As for the global flood. I believe it as the Word says, but I also believe in it for a scientific reason as well. I was reading an article a while back that spoke of where all the water came from. This science also explains the reasoning behind why so many people lived so long, and also why our lives are so much shorter.

    The theory is, the earth;s atmosphere was surrounded by a layer of water. This water protected the people of the time from the various damaging effects of the sun. Those thing that cause our skin to age faster then it should. When the floodgates of heaven opened, it was literaly that. Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. The earth that the people of the time lived on, had water above and below it.

    There is dispute over this as there is over everything. I would just take the Word at its word and call it good.

    [I also think there was some kind of a huge water vapor around the earth because there was a separation of the water during creation, above and below the "heavens". But also, the "fountains of the great deep" broke forth, so there was a lot of water beneath the surface, probably much, much more than the volume of the rain. Thanks, Brian! dt]

36. Dennis on September 1st, 2010 7:33 am

    I tend to think we can all believe the same when it comes to Holy Scripture. Why? The One and Same HOLY SPIRIT! He dispels all other theories about Biblical interpretation and provides us only one account of it. When we cling to His teaching, wisdom, understanding, service, account, and humble ourselves, we tend to subject ourselves to the Bible and not the Bible to ourselves. No matter how significantly intelligent we humans are, we still are limited in our ability to fathom God’s abilities. I appreciate everyone’s capacity to explain what they believe, but in the end, it is only what God has said the matters. For instance, if He says there was a flood over “all the earth”, who am I to try to explain it away or to limit it to a small region of the earth. If God caused a great flood over the entire earth which was capable of covering the [highest mountain in the region the ‘boat’ floated above], which should conclude that the waters spread out over the earth…which by the way was the way it was in Genesis 1:1-2…no matter how I can or can’t wrap my mind around the enormity of it does not negate the fact that it did happen. My trying to figure out how to accept or explain God’s actions or how if it really happened is akin to a rock screaming nonsense at itself in the middle of a black hole. Who can fathom the debt of God’s power and might?

    [The depths of the reality of God is, indeed, impossible to plumb. However, He has made Himself know to us and we can therefore know Him. Psalm 19 implies that we are to learn from the creation, asking the birds, etc. which means that God has called us to that investigation. I think it is an awesome privilege. Thanks for commenting, Dennis! dt]

37. Jim Virkler on September 1st, 2010 8:57 am

    With great respect and appreciation for Del Tackett and the fruitful ministry of The Truth Project, I am sorry to see his foray into the local/global flood issue. The question of whether the flood was local or global is oversimplified and misunderstood, and the data misinterpreted. Moreover, it drives Christians apart, not to mention the suspicion engendered among seekers in the secular world.

    Rigid interpretational schemes would put the date of the global flood at a mere 4400 years ago. Adherence to such a belief presents enormous historical and scientific difficulties, not the least of which is the proliferation of a few thousand ark animals to the ten million species in existence today in just over 4000 years! Complex history, geology, and theology cannot be reduced to a simplistic interpretation based on the view that the Bible contains “plain and simple truths.” God’s word contains the wonderful message of God’s love and redemptive plan for mankind, but it does not contain “plain and simple truths” in every sphere of human knowledge.

    One respondent (Sam) cited the ministries of Reasons to Believe (Hugh Ross and other scholars) and God and Science (Richard Deem). Both organizations offer solid, well-researched science and are theologically orthodox. As a “must read,” I would add the 2008 volume “The Bible, Rocks and Time” by Davis A. Young, Ph.D, Professor Emeritus of Geology at Calvin College. This 500-page book is written by a professional geologist with a sound theological perspective. It carefully presents detailed explanations for the geological features of our earth, skilfully exposing errant interpretations of the flood narrative.

    The only solution for achieving harmony in interpretation of both biblical theology and science is to study carefully and compare the findings of the very best scholars in both fields. The scholars cited have excellent credentials in both theology and science. If both theology and science are correctly interpreted, they will not conflict.

    [Jim, I appreciate your comments, but we may have to disagree on the point that you feel I shouldn't speak about the flood. There are a number of issues that believers disagree on but I don't think that means we should keep quiet about them. Science and liberal theologians both agree that Jesus could not have risen from the dead. It may be contentious, but that isn't a reason to give up that ground. Let's examine the issues with honesty and grace. Seeking the truth is a command of God and a blessing, even if there is contention along the road. dt]

38. Karen on September 1st, 2010 10:41 am

    I would like to share this. My father-in-law told me he didn’t believe in God because he didn’t believe all the animals could fit on the ark. When my husband and I would visit, he wouldn’t pray with us at the table and often made comments in opposition to God. I prayed for his salvation often and always said I didn’t care if it was on his deathbed, but please God, just get me there in time. We lived about two hours away and when we got the call that my father-in-law was in the hospital and not expected to live we quickly responded. When we arrived at the hospital, even though my father-in-law could hardly speak, he asked for prayer. I prayed the prayer of salvation with him. When he died, there was such a peace on his face that my mother-in-law said she had never seen on his face since the day she had known him. In the end, it really didn’t matter that he believed all the animals couldn’t fit on the ark. The only thing that mattered was that he believed in God.

    Karen

    [What a great story of the grace of God and the peace that comes to those who are in Christ Jesus. I'm so thankful that your Father-in-Law left this world in His Hands. You didn't say how long ago this was, but I pray the Lord will continue to give all of you comfort in his absence. You will see him again one day! dt]

39. Damon on September 1st, 2010 10:59 am

    Del,

    First, thank you for all you do. I have been blessed many times by your teaching. I have had the opportunity to teach the Truth Project in a couple of settings including a prison ministry I do. I have been studying creation over the past 12 years. I have enjoyed seeing God grow and use you in this vital foundation of the Bible. The truth truly sets us free. Blessings, Damon

    [Thanks, Damon, for your faithfulness to reach out to the prisoners. I know of several chaplains who have been using the Truth Project within the prison walls and the Lord blesses in a great way. Soli Deo Gloria! dt]

40. Nancy on September 1st, 2010 6:55 pm

    I’m with Jeff (8/31)!!!! Yes, I’ve heard of Answers in Genesis, it is a remarkable ministry with lots of substantial information at our disposal. I have been to the Museum many times, it is well worth the time to go through it. There are very good studies done on the 6 day creation issue that quite frankly make more sense than any other explanation of how and when we got here. And, if we can’t believe God’s word from the very first verse, then what CAN we believe??

    [There is no other rock to stand upon. He has given us both general and special revelation, and they both give valid testimony of the grandness of God and His nature. Thanks! dt]

41. wilma begly on September 1st, 2010 7:11 pm

    this is awesome evidence!!!!!!!!!!! not to mention that it totally convinces me of Biblical history and reassures my faith in Christ!! i’ve struggled with doubt alot and i must say that i am a firm believer now!

    [Wilma, thanks for the testimony. I pray the Lord will continue to guide you into His truth and love. dt]

42. Nancy on September 2nd, 2010 11:33 am

    Del, thank you for your encouragement, and for giving us The Truth Project. We have taken many groups through it, and watched it change their lives (ours, too, for that matter!!) Looking forward to seeing the next series. What a blessing you are to all of us.

    [Your words of encouragement come at a great time, Nancy. Thank you. However, the blessing that comes from the Truth Project is because the Lord has chosen to place His hands upon it and answer the many prayers of the leaders to do His mighty work in the hearts and minds of the guests in their homes. Soli Deo Gloria! dt]

43. Carolyn on September 3rd, 2010 2:14 am

    Del,

    I’m with you all the way. Yes, the flood was read and it was global. However, re your first point: even if the secular science of archeology did not agree with the Biblical record, God’s Word would still be true.

    [Carolyn, I agree, but the historical records are important "witnesses" to that truth as well. Paul made his great appeal regarding the truth of the resurrection by pointing to the "historical record", listing numbers and names of those who had seen the risen Jesus. Thanks for following the blog. I'm taking this week off! dt]

44. Thom on September 3rd, 2010 8:55 pm

    comment deleted

    [Thom, in the future, if you care to write in a constructive, rather than offensive way, we will post them. dt]

45. Tom on September 4th, 2010 6:30 pm

    Jim Virkler has provided info beyond Del’s. It is fine for Del to write on this, but he should also confess his ignorance and simplicity in regards to the flood when Jim, Sam and Dash point it out. Del needs to live up to his claim of continuing to research especially since other Christians have already provided more mature analysis. Del’s ignoring facts that don’t support his position will foster unneccessary division. He does so much good here, but falls short on this front in content due to not staying true to his on professed approach to search for truth.

    [Tom, I am ignorant and simple. However, I do continue to read and study. But, I have yet to be convinced that the "facts" you are talking about are indeed "facts". Thanks for the admonishment. I wish there were more time to do more research. dt]

46. Sam on September 7th, 2010 4:19 pm

    I would like to clarify one point, based on reading many of the posts above there seems to be a mis-understanding by many people that unless one interprets Genesis 6 as global flood we are either (a) placing science above scripture. (b) Not interpreting scripture literally or (c) Not believing scripture.

    That is an incorrect assumption, (a) I do not believe I am putting science above scripture since all the reasons I gave where for Biblical reasons not scientific. (b) I do believe that my interpretation is literal considering the many ways that the word ‘erets’ can and has been translated in most of scripture and (c) I have complete confidence and faith in the Word of God and believe it to be His inspired, inerrant word, from Genesis 1:1 through the last Amen in Revelation 22:21

    One other point in regards to the word ‘erets’ translated earth in Genesis 6 – 9.

    According to Strong’s Hebrew dictionary shows; 776 ????? [?erets /eh·rets/]
    Of the 2504 occurrences; AV translates as “land” 1543 times, “earth” 712 times, “country” 140 times, “ground” 98 times, “world” four times, “way” three times, “common” once, “field” once, “nations” once, and “wilderness + 4057” once.

    If God’s intent in relating the story to Moses, was to make sure that we would understand it to be a ‘global flood’ why did He not use the word ‘tebel’ which according to the Dictionary of Biblical Languages it refers to “the whole expanse of the world”? See Psalm 9:9; 96:13 or 1 Chronicles 16:30 or 1 Samuel 2:8

    I was very glad to read Karen’s father-in-law testimony that at least in his death bed he came to know the Lord. However I can’t help but wonder how much better would it have been if he did not have this stumbling block. I do recognize that in the end is not ‘reason’ that brings someone to a saving knowledge, but I wonder how many more like him are using this and a faulty interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2 and Job 38 and other creation passages as an excuse to disregard the bible.

    I pray that someday all this smart Godly men who search for the truth will come to an understanding so we can all get on with the business of God’s kingdom and winning souls for Christ.

    In His Love, Sam

    [Sam, thanks for taking the time to respond. It is good for believers to discuss issues with grace. Let's look then at the verses you referred to (Psalm 96:13, 1 Chronicles 16:30, 1 Samuel 2:8) (I left Psalm 9:9 out because it is obviously a mistype). In each of these verses, both Hebrew words are used, i.e. Psa 96:13, "...He comes to judge the earth (e·artz). He will judge the world (thbl) in righteousness..." This is typical Hebrew restatement of the same thing for emphasis. In 1 Chr 16:30, "...tremble before Him, all the earth (e·artz); yes, the world (thbl) is established..." and 1 Sam 2:8, "...the pillars of the earth (e·artz) are the Lord's, and on them he has set the world (thbl). There is an implied global-ness to both words in these verses. However, it is more than the single words here that is important. I would encourage you and everyone to go to Gen 6-9 and make two columns. In one put all of the phrases and content that implies "global" (like "destroy all flesh") and in the other column all the phrases and content that implies "local". Then sit back and look at it and ask what is all of this clearly communicating. I believe you will find that there is no question about it. However, I appreciate your kindness and grace in your comments. Soli Deo Gloria! dt]

47. Sam on September 8th, 2010 1:00 pm

    Dear Dr. Tackett.

    I have done as you suggested and still don’t see the implied ‘global-ness’ especially when you consider the fact that for Noah and even for Moses and the Israelites their POV would have always been from a local understanding, since they had no knowledge that a continent existed on the other side of the globe. Even in our time sometimes we speak in ‘global’ terms when we don’t always mean the entire world. (The world series) – As far as I know (I’m not a baseball fan) only the United States and Canada participate in the ‘world series’

    I also find it interesting that in Gen 6:1 it says “when men began to multiply on the face of the LAND (adamah)” and again in Gen 6:7 and 7:4 – God specifically states that he would blot out from the face of the ‘LAND’) every living thing. So in some instances the word ‘erets’ (earth,land,territory,people) is used and other times the word ‘adamah’ (land,ground,country,earth) is used.

    If one was to re-read those passages replacing the word ‘earth’ with the word ‘land’ where it would be appropriate a completely different picture emerges.

    Additionally Gen 6:11 states “Now the earth (erets) was corrupt in the sight of God”, according to Young Earth and Global Flood theology that is why God brought judgment upon the whole earth. But according to YE theology the earth became corrupted when God cursed it because of Adam’s sin, but if God corrupted it, how can He now bring judgment to something that He himself did? Even if we interpret this corruption as a result of the violence of man, it still does not explain why God would bring judgment to parts of the world (I.e America, Europa, Asia, Australia) that had never seen a human being.

    My belief is that YE theology requires a global flood not because scripture demands it, but primarily because it is the only possible way of attempting to explain the millions of fossils we see today.

    I would like to ask Marie from a previous post “Why does animal death before the fall of man make God a liar?” – Calling something ‘very good’ does not mean ‘perfect’ – Even if we were to interpret it as ‘perfect’ it very well may be that God is referring to it as ‘very good’ or (perfect) for the purpose for which He created it, which was to redeem a people for His Son. Nowhere in scripture do I see that predatory activity is a result of man’s sin, as a matter of a fact Psalm 104:21 (a creation Psalm) states “The young lions roar after their prey And seek their food from God.”

    Also Psalm 104:27-30 states the following;
    They all wait for You
    To give them their food in due season.
    You give to them, they gather it up;
    You open Your hand, they are satisfied with good.
    You hide Your face, they are dismayed;
    You take away their spirit, they expire
    And return to their dust.
    You send forth Your Spirit, they are created;
    And You renew the face of the ground.

    Every commentator that I have read on this passages seem to simply gloss over them, some have tried to indicate that this verse refers to the Genesis Flood, however the word created in vs 30 is the Hebrew ‘bara’ (creation by divine fiat)- But according to Genesis 2 God rested on the 7th day from His creation and we have no indication from scripture that God continued to create after He created Eve.
    To me it sure sounds a lot like the extinctions and recreations we see in the fossil record, if this is true then we don’t need a global flood to explain the fossils.

    Regards, Sam

    “It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
    But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.”

48. Doug on September 9th, 2010 6:28 pm

    Del,
    Like you, we (my wife Beckie and I) recently completed a trip to southern Utah. While I believe in the flood I have a question regarding the rock formations. It appears that in several places, i.e Bryce Canyon and parts of the Grand Canyon, that sediments have been laid down in thin layers. What is the explanation for this? Wouldn’t a flood leave one thick layer rather than several thin layers. It seems the geological evidence leaves mixed clues.

    Thank you in advance for your answer.
    Doug.

    [Doug, several years ago, a neighbor's earthen dam broke on his 5-acre lake. It created a "flood" downstream that swept through the creek behind our house. All of the material in the bottom of the lake and the dam rushed down the little canyon filling it with the sediment. Afterwards, the creek began to cut through the soft material and, lo and behold, it revealed all of these layers of different colored material, sorted as cleanly and neatly as could be. There were thick layers and thin layers and layers that themselves varied in size along the creek bed. This is a very natural occurrence due to "hyrdo-sorting". The same thing was found after the Saint Helen's eruption, on a larger scale. So, it is not surprising that we see similar varied thicknesses of layers in the Grand Canyon and above. I don't think anything else can adequately explain it. Certainly the old geological story of placid lakes and rising and falling continents don't. That is why the standard story is change. Thanks! dt]

49. Maren on September 12th, 2010 2:33 am

    Thank you, Del. I SO appreciate the Truth Project and I’m delighted to find your blog so that I can continue to get doses of truth now that I’m done with the study and videos. I know nothing about geology so I can’t tell if any of your points could really be argued or not, but I do know this: God says there was a flood, and He would know. Thanks so much.

    [Thank you, Maren, for laboring together through the Truth Project. If your interest is piqued in geology, maybe you would like to study it! dt]

50. Bob on September 16th, 2010 12:30 pm

    Del,

    First, let me tell you what a blessing the Truth project has been to me. Second, let me confess that I am a 62 year old Bible enthusiast with no corner on the truth. Forgive me for being late to this discussion but I would like to add just a few of many points that make me believe that the flood was neither local nor global, but rather large and regional, i.e., covered all the humanly affected world. First, refer to the Psalm 104; 5 -9 creation account. where God separates the land from the water then declares that the water will never again cover the entire globe. Second, read Gen 8:9 where the a dove could find no place to land because, ” there was water over all the surface of the earth.” Yet, just four verses earlier, we read in verse 5 that the waters had receded to the point where the tops of the mountains were visible. Throughout the Bible, the terms “whole world” and “all the earth” are used, as today, referring to large areas of concern. In 1 Kings 10:24 are we to believe that the tribes of the Americas or the Far East sought out King Solomon? Did Paul really preach the gospel to all the world?

    There have, no doubt, been many floods throughout history and many great ones at that, but the Biblical flood, in particular, was to wipe out man’s evil impact. That evil did not extend to areas of the world that included penguins and kangaroos. God would have had no call to punish life, where humanity had had no impact.

    How does a global flood explain the unique animals of the polar regions or of Australia? While the ark, a vessel roughly the size of an Alaskan ferry, would be capable of holding the animals of the Mesopotamian plain for so long, it would be much too tiny for all the animals of the globe to be crowded in for even a moment.

    As to radiometric dating, much confusion persists among Christians, to their apologetic detriment. Many fundamentalist arguments would deny the very existence of the periodic tables. May I suggest a paper by Dr. Roger C. Wiens, entitled Radiometric Dating- A Christian Perspective? Dr. Wiens, an expert on the subject, would be a terrific reference source for the Truth Project.

    Thanks for hearing me out. Bob

    [Bob, my pleasure! Sorry for taking so long to post this. A couple of things. Psalm 104 could also be referring to the flood. It is not necessarily a "creation" account as it appears to be given from a current perspective...i.e. there is a reference to ships on the sea. The other explanation is that the seas did not rise up and cover the earth at the flood. It was the fountains of the deep and the rain.
    After the flood, God makes what appears to be a general covenant will all living creatures, yet He say that it is with Noah, his descendents and "all with every living creature that was with you...". This seems to reinforce the other passages that they were the only living creatures that survived. I think it is hard to read the account and not see it as global. Again "Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life" and "all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered", etc. It sure sounds global to me. Also, if just the highest mountains in the "region" were covered, let's say Mt. Herman at 9,000 feet, how much of the rest of the world is below that elevation? I will try to read the book you referenced. However, I still believe there are huge assumptions in radiometric dating and it discounts the possibility that the fall or the even the flood included a radical "shaking" of the binding forces within the atomic structure. Anyway, I am grateful for your interest and comments. dt]

51. Gene on September 25th, 2010 5:33 pm

    Being a Christian, I don’t think it’s really all that important to find scientific evidence for a literal flood.

    For the most part I appreciate the skeptics who voice their disbelief – they simply are looking for reasons to believe and most Christians are not able to make such defenses.

    For the skeptics who believe it’s impossible to fit 2 of every kind. The number was actually MUCH greater than that. If I’m correct, God tells Noah to take in 7 pairs, male and female of every kind of unclean animal. And 1 pair of clean. Also are 7 pair of birds. I don’t know how many animals there are on earth and I really don’t care because the scriptures are for more powerful in their allegory, parables and models.

    Still, I appreciate atheists and non-believers who can dialogue in respect without yelling our “jihad” and wanting to kill us for beliving fully in Christ.

    As for the pictures – WOW! forget the truth program bro, become a photographer (kidding), seriously those are great shots.

    [Gene, I appreciate a civil and friendly dialogue as well. Some haven't been and therefore I can't post them. And thanks for the kind comment about the photos. However, it's really the scene and the camera. I just happen to put them together! dt]

52. Kellie on September 25th, 2010 9:06 pm

    Even the Inuit Eskimos have stories of a great flood that their ancestors experienced. I think most primitive cultures have such stories and I think they all experienced Noah’s flood.

    [Kellie...I agree. It seems logical, doesn't it, that if the Flood were real, it would be found woven into the histories of mankind? Thanks! dt]

53. david on September 29th, 2010 1:14 pm

    A recurring theme of the comments is that all ancient cultures have a flood story so they must all be talking about Noah’s flood.

    An alternative explanation is that all ancient cultures had to be close to a source of fresh water. Sources of fresh water (rivers, lakes, etc) flood from time to time. Once in a while the flood is severe. Therefore, ancient cultures all have a flood story.

    I suspect that a primitive culture that settled near the confluence of the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers would have concluded that the entire planet flooded when both rivers had the severe flooding from several years ago.

    BTW – Del’s Argument #7 is a classic “straw man”. 1. Assert that an idea means that something must be true.
    2. Demonstrate that the “something” is not true
    3. Therefore, the idea is false.

    #3 works only if #1 is true. Since Del’s Argument #7 resembles the truth but is not actually true then this is a “straw man” argument.

    [David, thanks for the comment, but I guess I'll have to disagree. A straw man misrepresents an opponent's argument, then shows that argument is wrong, concluding that your opponent is therefore in error. However, I think I represented the classic geological story accurately that the sediment was formed by rising and falling continents, covered with placid oceans and very, very slow sedimentation. I was trying to show that the evidence doesn't match that story, i.e. that fossils aren't formed by slow sedimentation. Are you saying that isn't the classic geological story? it's the one I learned and I believe is still the theory for how large sedimentary basins are formed. Thanks again! dt]

54. Phil on October 26th, 2010 3:22 pm

    I have a question. I have recently looked at some information n the comparisons of raio-carbon dating and dendrochronology, tree ring research related into history, archeology, and anthropology. There seems to be conflicts in the tree ring record and the Biblical timelines for both the Flood and the Tower of Babel. One specific problem deals with a claim that civization did not spread from Mesopotamia, but appears to have been all over Eurasia and appeared simultaneously in both cultures and languages. What are your thoughts?

    [Thanks for commenting, Phil. I am not familiar with this study, but am a little confused regarding the connection between tree rings and civilization. Maybe you or someone could help me understand that. Also, regarding the simultaneous development of cultures and languages in a widespread area, I believe we have that source at the Tower of Babel, when the Lord confused the languages and mankind then spread all over the earth rapidly as the separated by their "native" tongue. dt]

55. Abraham on October 26th, 2010 9:24 pm

    According to the web site: Godandscience.org,the author, Rich Deem, claims that Psalm 104 states that Noah’s Flood was Local and not Global.

    Though not hindering my faith, it is messing with my mind and wondering why should I believe in a Global Flood. Makes Noah’s story seem unnecessary and trivial then.

    Thank you.

56. John on December 16th, 2010 7:04 pm

    Hi Del
    Your right about the flood and the formations. If you’re ever in San Diego, let me know. I work at The Creation Museum in Santee, and I give you a tour.
    John

    [Thanks, John. I'll take you up on that! dt]

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